Last Update: 20190420 This File: Norge_2007_fyi.txt This Dir: C:\\DAN\DBMS\bikes\Guzzi\Norge2007\ Latest version of this Tips & Tricks file will always be kept on-line here: https://tinyurl.com/yd27rs3b [Same but Shorter URL as below:] https://www.dansher.com/bikepix/Guzzi/Norge1200/Norge_2007_fyi.txt More fyi: https://www.dansher.com/bikepix/Guzzi/Norge1200/2007_Norge_eval.pdf http://tinyurl.com/y85ljgkm [for general 2007 Norge Specs] [2-Valve] http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/moto%20guzzi/moto_guzzi_norge_1200%2006.htm [4-Valve] https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/moto%20guzzi/moto_guzzi_norge_1200%2010.htm http://www.motorcycle.com/specs/moto-guzzi/sport-touring/2007/norge/1200-gt.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3sld4jh2U8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyB6Xvy84EQ The 2007 Norge 1200 USA (1151cc) has 2-Valve cylinder heads Compare to 2009 850cc (2-Valve) Norge (European only) 75 hp 6-speed 534 lbs (dry): https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/moto%20guzzi/moto_guzzi_norge_850%2007.htm Imagine a new "Compact Norge" 850cc with new, lighter-weight, rear-drive and 80hp V85 motor: https://www.dansher.com/bikepix/Guzzi/V85TT_850cc_Test.pdf GUZZI HISTORY: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_Guzzi The 2-Valve Norge, Breva, Sport & Griso "large blocks" share similar engines and components. The links below will provide useful tips for one or more of these models. -- Later 4-Valve models not so much. ========[ SERVICE OF GUZZI B-N-S 1100/1200 cc ]========================================= AIR BOX COVER ACCESS & REPLACE https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/gt-rx-airbox-cover-install.17832/ ALTERNATOR https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=98946.0 https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/re-the-alternator-belt.10450/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/alt-alt-belt-in-for-high-mount-alternator-guzzis.3680/ BATTERY RELACEMENT https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=88057.0 Shorai for 2009 Norge 1200: https://shoraipower.com/battery?type=175&make=381905&model=381906&year=381906 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99196.0 "Make sure that the battery you buy is a 20AH one. Most manufacturers will also make a 16 AH battery that is dimensionally identical and it tends to get bought and installed instead of the 20AH option because it's cheaper." https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/no-start-battery-warning.4207/ BRAKE CALIPERS AND FLUID https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=98907.0 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100596.0 BRAKE PADS https://gtmotocycles.com/collections/all-products/products/ferodo-carc-rear-brake-pads https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99120.0 EBC FA244-HH for the front per Pete Roper https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99228.0 http://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=110_122&products_id=170 BRAKE REAR CALIPER fyi https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/carc-models-rear-brake.17386/ BRAKE ROTOR ( FRONT ) WARPED and/or PULSING http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/brake-rotor-pulsing-resolved.1004 [GREAT PIX] http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/easter-oregon-fall-ride-on-a-norge.9817/#post-74382 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=98961.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsNRaClpDXA CARC FAILURE: https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=98477.0 CARC REACTION ROD BUSHING https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/carc-reaction-rod.12162/ CARC RECALL: According to the Guzzi recall campaign C.A.R.C. units prior to unit number 003171 were recalled. The cardan number is given under the rubber boot. http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/c-a-r-c-serial-number-identification.16751/ CARC Rear Drive Service https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100530.0 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100591.0 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=66579.msg1021807 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99729.0 https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/moto-guzzi-griso-carc-swingarm-service.18646/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/how-to-check-swingarm-and-linkage-bearings-on-ntx.9978/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Llsn6jeB-k COMMUNICATIONS, Bluetooth, GPS, etc. https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=98643.0 DASHBOARD FAILURE & FIXES https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100243.0 (Excellent Code discussion by Moto) https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=98936.0 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=97470.0 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=84968.0 https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/condensation-in-clocks-breva-griso.1892/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/dashboard-interference.12501/ [good pix] ECU [Engine Control Unit] REFLASH and LAMDA [O2] SENSOR https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100576.0 [Norge 1200 2-Valve Fuel Map] https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=96957.0 [Tutorial: GuzziDiag Fuel Map Installer] https://www.lonelec.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14&products_id=50 [USB cable source] https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100006.0 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99975.0 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=69168.0 http://www.dpguzzi.com/efiman.pdf https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/lean-fuel-condition.18865/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/2008-norge-1200-2v-ecu-error-56.19099/ ECU ERROR CODES https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100243.0 (Excellent Code discussion by Moto) https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/error-codes-for-5am-ecus.7966/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/2008-norge-1200-2v-ecu-error-56.19099/ https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=44129.msg661054 ELECTRICAL Gremlins [Nice Diagrams & fyi] https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=98581.0 ENGINE LOSES POWER https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/07-norge-1200-engine-power-loss-at-speed.19221/ ENGINE MIS-FIRE https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/intermittent-mid-range-misfire.18391/ ENGINE OIL CAPACITY: After change of Oil & Filter = 3600cc = 3.8 Quarts EVERYTHING Breva Norge Sport: http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/forums/bns12-chat-tech.188/ EXHAUST OPTIONS http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=98228.0 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99405.0 EXHAUST NORGE 1200 Y-PIPE with O2 sensor port ($400) 2 into 1_Collector https://gtmotocycles.com/collections/exhaust/products/gt-motocycles-norge-1200-2v-y-pipe FRONT FORK SEAL https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/2015-norge-fork-seal-new-development.16898/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/replacing-fork-seals-on-1200-sport.6953/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/1200sport-front-suspension-questions.11207/ FUEL LEAN RUNNING & O2 SENSOR https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/lean-fuel-condition.18865/ FUEL FILTER https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/breva-1100-fuel-filter.19098/ FUEL LINE GAS TANK DISCONNECT https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/gt-rx-airbox-cover-install.17832/ https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=98673.0 http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=75387.0 http://forum.guzzitech.com/forum/topic?f=215&t=12556 http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/fuel-tank-dismantling.13784/ http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IY986JQ (Fuel Line Pipe Disconnect Plier Tools) FUEL PUMP FAILURE https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100063.0 GEAR BOX OIL CHANGE https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/norge-gearbox-oil-change.19192/ GEAR OIL (TRANSMISSION & FINAL DRIVE) https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/transmission-gear-oil.18825/ GENERAL INFO 2007 NORGE https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=87203.0 GOOD GUZZI DEALERS https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99833.0 GUZZI DIAG (Tune-Up software) TUTORIAL (extremely detailed with photos) https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=96957.0 HEATED GRIP FAILURE & RESET http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/heated-grips-not-working-breva-1100.16897/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/norge-heated-grips-not-working-correctly.19272/ IDLE, TOO FAST https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/high-idle-speed-1200-sport.8068/ https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100587.0 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=98753.0 https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/very-high-idle-1800-rpm-when-warm-on-2008-1200-sport-2v.19265/ http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/norge-idle.904 [REMOVE evap cannister] '...to cure the erratic idle. I finally removed all the charcoal canister stuff with hoses and that cured it once and for all. Simply disconnect the one hose that attaches to the charcoal can that comes from the throttle bodies and plug that hose. Simple to tell what hose I’m talking about, when you pull it off it will be sucking when the engine is running. When I did that it instantly cured my erratic [fast] idle problem.' {READ the entire post!] http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/b11-stalls-at-idle.17019/#post-128335 http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/norge-fast-idle.2875/ http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/breva-1200-high-idle.13196/ IDLE SPEED EXTRA FYI [Private Message From Guzzi Guru Kiwi_Roy]: "Hi, I had a similar [high idle] problem with a 2 Valve Griso, nothing seemed to bring the idle speed down. The sacred throttle stop had not been tampered with. I thought the stepper motor was buggered and so I bought another from Pete, same thing. Cleaned with carb cleaner to no avail. I tried aligning the throttles using the method posted on Wild Guzzi and it ended up even worse. I'm an instrumentation tech, so I'm supposed to know about things like this, I pulled the throttles off and studied them for about a week then I figured out If you move the bell crank too far it jacks open the RH throttle body resulting in more air which then results in having to open the Air bleed to try and bring it back into line adding even more air. The two throttles on these CARC bikes are quite interconnected by the idle balance ports so adding air on one side adds air to both like a 1/4" line between the two, there's also another line between the two, the line that used to go to the old canister. Try this without even thinking about using your alignment tool: Close off both air bleeds completely. Start the engine. If its still idling too fast it's the Bell Crank opening the RH body as I suggest Back the bell crank counter clockwise, hook your left forefinger around the back so you can feel the tip of the screw, it should end up with only 2 or 3 mm sticking out the back. Mine was idling about 2,000 after studying it for a while I re-aligned it without using any air bleed, its very close to perfect balance and idles at 1000 to 1100. I guess the thing I should say is don't let your mechanic break the seal on the Sacred Screw (idle stop) on the Left Hand throttle body I see Pete going crook about that all the time. Later on next year I plan on making a rig that will allow it to be reset. You could prize the linkage off separating Left and right throttles, that might be interesting, would give you an idea of how it should be aligned. Cheers, Kiwi_Roy" INSTRUMENT INSPECTION & REPAIR https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=98936.0 KEY (? i.e., Chipped) replacement: Marie at Marie's Lock and Safe 9608 Rogers Ave. Fort Smith, AR 72903 (479) 484-7800 http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=95012.0 http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/breva-one-key-no-code.13984/ NOTE: 2nd key (blank Moto Guzzi) sucessfully cut by ACE in Sun City West AZ Later re-coded to start Norge motor OK by: Powersports Outlet (Official Guzzi Dealer) 316 White Spar Rd - Prescott (AZ) 86303 TEL: (928) 778-7910 www.epfguzzi.com http://www.epfguzzi.com/contact.html [Service fyi] KICKSTAND - LOOSE https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/loose-kickstand-mount.9078/ MODE MENU Switch Failure: http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/mode-button-wont-work-on-1200-sport.18810/ MYSTERY FITTING UNDER SEAT [is a clutch bleed line] "Use that line on a regular basis. Every oil change I bleed that and the rear brake. Both are subject to high heat. Rear brake especially so. Be warned not to cook that fluid. Easy to have happen." http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=98092.0 NORGE REGISTRY http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/norge-registry-add-your-bike.11529/ O2 SENSOR Search Google or eBay for 46750182 - a generic O2 sensor that probably works OK. The trick is to match the Guzzi O2 connector. Suggested here: https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/2007-norge-galloping-idle-from-bad-o2-sensor-or-stepper.19138 OIL DIPSTICK EXTENSION & ACCESS https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99405.0 OIL FILTER REMOVAL https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/oil-filter-doesnt-come-loose-norge.6590/ [nice pix] OIL PRESSURE ALERT LIGHT ON https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/red-triangle-and-oil-can-showing.19432/ http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/oil-pressure-light-comes-on-at-idle-with-hot-oil.16549/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/oil-pressure-light-on-1200-sport.18848/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/dashboard-error-oil-pressure-sensor.6465/ https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=44129.msg661054 OIL PUMP FAILURE "The build date is on the plate just under the front of the tank, looked at from above when you pull the tank up & back a bit. Please take a look & report back. This number is much earlier than the vast bulk of the known failures that were almost all built 10-11/06, with Vin #s ending between 112208 and 112309" http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/early-norge-oil-pump-failure.6174/ OIL RECOVERY SYSTEM https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/how-does-the-breva-1100-oil-vapor-recovery-system-work.18722/ OIL WARNING LIGHT ON https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=44129.30 https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/uh-oh-norge-service-light.6291/ OWNERS MANUAL https://www.dansher.com/bikepix/Guzzi/Norge1200/Norge_2006_own_man.pdf PARTS LIST https://tinyurl.com/yccl3vd5 [short URL] https://www.dansher.com/bikepix/Guzzi/Norge1200/Parts_List_Norge_2006-08.pdf PARTS LIST TOC https://tinyurl.com/y9tvm9k9 [short URL] https://www.dansher.com/bikepix/Guzzi/Norge1200/Parts_List_Norge_2006-08_fyi.txt PARTS SOURCES (OEM) for OLDER GUZZI http://www.harpermoto.com/ https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=98991.0 REAR SUSPENSION MAINT https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100118.0 REAR SUSPENSION RECALL (4-Valve 1200's only; prior 2-Valve models not affected) https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2013/08/08/moto-guzzi-stelvio-ntx-1200-norge-1200-griso-1200-recall/ RIDERS & RIDES in/near PHOENIX AZ https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=96014.0 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99510.0 https://www.tripsavvy.com/best-motorcycle-rides-in-central-arizona-2681516 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99546.0 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99637.0 https://www.us-parks.com/roadtrip/the-grand-circle-road-trip.html http://www.americansouthwest.net/utah/monument_valley/ SACRED SCREW http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/the-sacred-screw-the-elusive-4-8-my-story.13611/ https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=87121.0 SERVICE CODE [not Ignition Key Code]: is 23815 for all: 2007-10 Norge 1200 2V = 28315 http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/service-codes.917/ SERVICE MANUAL, Breva 1100 Breva11ServiceMan.pdf 106 Pages https://www.dansher.com/bikepix/Guzzi/Norge1200/Breva11ServiceMan.pdf https://tinyurl.com/ydfj6pjx [Short URL] SERVICE MANUAL TABLE OF CONTENTS: Breva11ServiceMan_fyi.txt https://www.dansher.com/bikepix/Guzzi/Norge1200/Breva11ServiceMan_fyi.txt https://tinyurl.com/y7aggqrr [Short URL] SHOCK REPLACEMENT (REAR) http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/monoshock-removal.4062/ SPARK PLUG CAPS https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/breva-1100-spark-plug-caps.19140 SPARK PLUG REPLACEMENT https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/07-norge-1200-engine-power-loss-at-speed.19221/ SPEED SENSOR FRONT & REAR https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/2008-norge-1200-2v-ecu-error-56.19099/ START FAILURE [ Startus Interruptus ] https://www.dansher.com/bikepix/Guzzi/Norge1200/2007_Norge_Starting_Diag.jpg https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/modern-no-start-issue-solution.4908/ [Good pix & discussion of needs/fixes for both Small Block 750s and Large Block 1150s] https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/another-no-start-condition-resolved.15759/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/b11-norge-startus-interruptus-the-mph-solution.7161/ http://mphcycles.com/starter-relay-fix-kit/ (It works perfectly! - DRM) https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=76194.0 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=70672.0 https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/i-need-a-help-with-starter-relay-bypass.14297/ http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/b11-norge-startus-interruptus-the-mph-solution.7161/ https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99217.0 https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/2007-norge-gremlins.16162/ http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/v1200-starter-woes.12569/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIpWQE6jaL4 [Add an emergency-start button] "The well known Moto Guzzi starting problem solved by bypassing the starter button and the starter relay with a new cable from the +pole of the battery to a new simple starter button and from there to the small connection on the starter solenoid." STARTER MOTOR https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99365.0 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99223.0 STEPPER MOTOR, THROTTLE - Clogged and/or Seizing causing idle problems SEE: .\Stepper_fyi.txt https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/una-storia-steppermotoria.15653/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/stepper-motor-an-observation.19102/ https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99161.0 https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=98753.0 https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/stepper-motor-bypass.4542/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/2007-norge-galloping-idle-from-bad-o2-sensor-or-stepper.19138/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/stepper-motor-on-off-kit.3025/ https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/jorge-starting-niggle.19137/ SWINGARM BEARINGS https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99843.0 THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR [TPS] FYI https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/tps-voltage.19352/ TORQUE SPECIFICATIONS Front Forks https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/torque-spec-on-2008-norge-hex-screw-bottom-of-fork.19359/ TRAVEL SUGGESTIONS https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99869.0 VALVE SETTING & GENERAL TUNEUP https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/home-tuning-a-breva-v1100-etc.3768/ "The left throttle body carries the throttle-stop [aka "sacred"] screw, which is factory set and must not be altered." VDSTS (diagnostic work/troubleshooting and reset of the Throttle Position Sensor) https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/new-alaris-centurion-vdsts-info-instructions.1676/ http://technoresearch.com/ VIN DECODER https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/guzzi-vin-decoder.6035/ VIN: ZGULPU0017M112211 [of Dan's 2007 Norge 1200] WINDSCREEN LIFT FAILURE https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99218.0 EOF